The Basics of LOGCAP
If you’ve been wondering where your particular job skills fit into the world of LOGCAP, here is a run-down of the basic structure of the project and the areas it addresses in providing services for the military and the various agencies which make up today’s Total Army.
Here we go:
TTM - Theater Transportation Mission – Primarily pick-up and delivery (trucking) of supplies in the theater of operations, or AOR – (Area of Responsibility).
CLSS – Corps Logistics Supply and Support – very involved with warehousing, shipping and receiving.
OM&L – Operations, Maintenance and Logistics – also synonymous with BLS – Base Life Support – primarily involved with providing the vital necessities of living on an LSA – Life Support Area (Bases, Camps) and FOB’s – Forward Operating Bases
That is a brief overview – now to expound on each of these areas.
TTM – responsibilities include Ice Distribution, Movement Control, (MCT – Movement Control Team) – the logistics involved with getting commodities from point A, to point B.
TTM also covers Maintenance and Recovery, MHE (Material Handling Equipment, i.e. forklifts, RETCH’s (Rough Equipment Terrain Container Handler), Line Haul (Bulk Fuel/HET (Heavy Equipment Transportation, (i.e. moving army tanks, Armored Personnel Carriers etc.), and Flat Beds (flat bed trailers) the primary method of moving containers.
CLSS:
Class I – Rations and Water
Class II – Individual Equipment/Tools/Supplies
Class III – Fuel (Packaged and Bulk)
Class IV – Construction Material
Class V – Ammunition
Class IX – Repair Parts
CLSS also includes:
Joint Distribution Center
Forward Distribution Center
Maintenance Organization (Light Vehicles/Heavy Vehicles)
Base Life Support:
Billeting
DFAC – Dining Facility
Fire Fighting
Fuel
HVAC - Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning
Ice
Latrines
Laundry
Mail Handling
MWR (Morale, Welfare & Recreation) (Gyms, sports, special events, etc.)
O&M (Operations and Maintenance)
Power Generation
Showers
Vector Control
Waste Removal
Water
These three areas, TTM, BLS, and CLSS collectively provide the services to Design, Construct, Operate, and Maintain the project.
And that is the primary mission of LOGCAP in a nut shell!
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Where is most of the truck driving jobs happening these days in this program?
How do you get your clearance back is you have bad debits? Cannot get oversea companies to even give me a look once they see that I have bad debits. I had an Secret Clearance while I was in the US Army but I retired in Jul 1994 my clearance became inactive at that time.
Marcus – You will want to research as many companies as you can to find a position that matches your qualifications. You may have cross-functional skills that would possibly match with positions other than driving. Shoot your resume to me and I’ll have a look.
Ron – I don’t want to give you false hope, but I can tell you that when performing background investigations, the investigating authority looks at the “whole” person rather than focusing on just one aspect.
Hi,
My name is Petrit and I am from Balkans (Kosovo). I acknowledged that lots of pals from Balkan region are working in Afghanistan. I am also very interested to join LOG CAP IV, I have more then 10 years of working experience, so I just wondered if you could give me a tip of which path should I follow in order to get a position down there.
Petrit – drop me a line along with your present CV on info@logcap4jobs.com
I will take a look and let you know how I can best assist.
Bruce- Thanks for the break down, very useful. I just started reading the blogs and was wondering if there is an article that breaks down the required experience for certain positions. More specifically, I was an Army Finance guy and am having a difficult time finding jobs suited to my background.
I worked in Iraq as a Construction Supervisor but this was a field promotion from Carpenter Foreman for KBR. KBR says they have no record of this but I have plenty of proof from officially filed daily reports and much more documentation. I tried to have this situation dealt with but the bottom line answer was we donot care nor do we have to from KBR. This causes me problems when my resume says one thing and KBR says another. I worked at Camp Anaconda, Balad Air Force Base, was assigned supervision of the building of D-Fac Four and One, The finishing of the base laundry and many more projects. I have proof of this in documentation and dailies. What can I do to alleviate this “fubar”?
Frank – Your official position is the job title shown on your time sheet. If your time sheet reflected your position as Carpenter Foreman, then that’s what you have to go by…bottom line. You can try to run it up the flag pole with the Dispute Resolution Program, but they’re probably going to tell you the same thing.
Adam – Job descriptions are listed on the individual company’s job board. You may have transferrable skills that dovetail with other disciplines.
Pay particular attention to the minimum requirements, as these are the “deal breakers” and are non-negotiable.
Hi Bruce Diggs,
How are you doing sir? My name is Jonathan Jackson I am looking for employment within Logcap IV or any contract overseas contract. Would it be possible if you could offer any advice on how I could pursue this further? Thank you for your time.
I have 10 years experience as an operations manager in the commercial petroleum industry (transportation) in the US. I have searched through several companies websites and job posts and have not run across similar positions (routing/dispatching, logistics, cost controls, inventory control, fleet maint. and driving). I must not be seaching the right fields or companies because I’ve heard of several LogCap positions overseas exist. Where should I begin my search?
I had the same problem as Frank Collins but I worked for a different contractor.
I have found out that they never admit to any field advancement unless you get them to offer you a new contract for the position that you have advanced to.
This will probably never happen in field promotions unless you refuse to accept the position without a contract addendum discribing your advancement.
They know most people will just accept the better slot and pay without a new contract, sometimes with the threat “take it or leave it” and if not, then we just bring in someone else to do it. THE NATURE OF THE BEAST
I am new to contracting overseas (90 days) and am a recruiter in Kuwait potentially subject to job reduction soon due to loss of our contract. I am really interested in staying overseas for several years at least and am trying to generate interest in myself for recruiting or other areas. I am not prior military, but I have 8.5 years experience as a recruiter with Bradley Morris, 10+ years in the event/hospitality/catering business and have great admin and customer service skills as well. Any ideas or directions you can point me in? I have applied with everyone I can think of and am hoping for a bite soon. I’ve subscribed to your site and am looking to you for help.
Hi. I am currently a contractor overseas and looking for a new move with another company to better myself. This is my second company in since 2007, and I am in need of some support to find another job with another company.
Kutura – If you are a subscriber to DangerZoneJobs, then you are on the right track for conducting a strategic job hunt. DZJ is THE best place on the internet to find the latest information on what companies are hiring, what companies are expected to be hiring, and even provides links to their job boards. A true value proposition if ever I’ve seen one.
But like Frank Sellers of SecureAspects.com says in part within the free article (here on DZJ), “How to find your overseas job faster and easier”, “You have to be aggressive when using this site – Bill will provide you with the information and you have to do the best you can with it – the site is not here to find you a job, it’s here to assist you by providing informational resources.” Well said Frank – I couldn’t agree more.
What Frank states is absolutely true for anyone seeking employment on LOGCAP or other overseas job opportunities. You have to be aggressive in your job hunt, PLUS you have to be prepared for a potential long-haul in your quest. Nobody can find a job for you – you have to do it yourself.
Too many people approach applying for LOGCAP jobs with an attitude of thinking it’s going to be easy – and those are the first one’s who get all flustered and give up after 2 weeks of not being contacted by a recruiter. Probably just as well though – if someone doesn’t have the patience to commit to a potentially long-term job hunt – and I’m talking about a commitment to many months OR LONGER if necessary – they sure as heck won’t have the patience to deal with the daily grind of the LOGCAP work environment. LOGCAP is no place for people with a sense of entitlement or for those with delicate sensibilities. (See my famous “Free Advice” page)
If you haven’t already, one thing you will definitely want to do Kutura is to have someone who knows what the LOGCAP recruiters are looking for go over your resume to make sure it’s good-to-go before applying.
Trying to get a LOGCAP job is a lot like playing the lottery – but remember…you can’t win if you don’t play.
I have been out of the Army National Guard for over 20 years and am wondering if my time in the Guard qualifies as prior military service?
Henry –
Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the answer to your question is yes.
Hello, please help. I spent 9 months @ camp victory working on MRAPS last year, when the task order under log3 ended, I was rifted.
Now, I have since been trained as a FSR for Navistar Defense, but due to a domestic violence in 2005, or a bankruptcy, I am unable to get clearance.
Do you know of a way to work that out, or to even know what exactly is preventing me? Navistar said it was the bankruptcy, but not officially, and I have not actually been turned down, 3 times I have been denied, and sent home, but not one time has it even gone to ncis for review.
Is it possible to get back without a clearance? say a company not working under logcap?
I can not even afford to pay my dues to get access to your site, but I hope you could offer a suggestion?
Thank you very much
Mark – I am not qualified to speak to a company’s policy.
Hello, I am a clinical counselor and in process of acquiring a doctorate in international psychology with emphasis in trauma services. I have worked with military on bases overseas and stateside and would am looking for a contract overseas in Afghanistan or Iraq but not necessarily limited to this. Could you provide direction? It seems there are limited positions in this field overseas.
Hello Desiree – Thank you for taking the time to share with us.
The variety of persons applying to LOGCAP and other overseas jobs seems to cover the entire socio-economic spectrum, and never ceases to amaze me – NASA specialists, 3 letter compartmented government agency personnel, scientists of varying disciplines, high ranking military officers and NCO’s, CEO’s, university professors, U.S. Embassy as well as foreign embassy personnel – the list goes on.
The vast majority of these candidates when contacting me make it clear they are willing to accept a position outside of their career field in the interest of getting their foot in the door, and I applaud you for expressing your willingness to do the same.
This is part of a wise strategy when contemplating applying for a LOGCAP job, one which has been successfully utilized on many occasions for obtaining gainful employment.
With your education and background, it sounds like you would be a prime candidate for a position of Employee Assistance Program Counselor, as EAP staff working on LOGCAP generally have experience in one of the following fields:
• Certified Employee Assistance Professional (CEAP)
• Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW)
• Licensed Chemical Dependency Counselor (LCDC)
• Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), or
• Register Nurse (RN)
Beyond that, I am sure you would be a strong and contributing team member in any department lucky enough to get you. My suggestion is to take full advantage of the leads you find here at DangerZoneJobs approaching your job hunt with an open mind to anything which you feel you may be suitable for, and/or, which you wouldn’t mind doing.
I have personally known of many people who accepted a position other than their first choice, and later went on to positions involving greater responsibility, authority, and financial reward.
Please feel free to forward your current resume to me for a review if you’d like, and I will be glad to let you know how I may assist you in your endeavor.
Best Regards – Bruce Diggs
Bruce, I am a 47 year old GC here in the US, I have 26 years experience in commercial, residential and govt sectors of the construction field. The economy caused me to shut down my operations in 2008 and begin working with a GC Firm as Director of Operations of the Houston Division. I have applied with Fluor, KBR, and DynCorp but have not had any response as of yet. Does my background hinder me from obtaining a position?
Randall – Talent and skills are a highly sought after commodity on LOGCAP, and even though you have not received any hits yet, does not necessarily mean you won’t be contacted at some point in the future. The LOGCAP employment industry is a highly contingent, fluid and dynamic environment reflecting the needs of the mission in Afghanistan and Iraq. Strength Management Teams are tasked with filling personnel requisitions which quite often have very specific minimum and preferred requirements involving experience and education. For example, if a job posting states a minimum requirement of 12 years of experience in Project Management with a Bachelors Degree in Business Administration, that minimum requirement is non-negotiable. Minimum requirements are referred to as ‘deal breakers’ and if an applicant does not meet each and every one, then they are wasting their time.
Some requisitions may include a preference for a certain Military Occupational Specialty (MOS), or comparable Air Force Specialty Code (AFSC), while some may not.
When an applicant meets the minimum requirements for a job posting, the preferred requirements is where the hiring authority separates the proverbial wheat from the chaff. The more preferred requirements which an applicant can meet and exceed, the more points they rack up – and the applicant with the most points wins. For example, if two applicants both meet the minimum and preferred requirements, but one applicant exceeds the minimum and preferred requirements through professional certifications supported by membership in a relevant professional organization, then that applicant will have a significantly higher chance of receiving the job offer.
While these are a few of the considerations one must give when thinking about applying to a LOGCAP job, one must always make sure that their resume is in order before applying, as a resume sets the tone for a potential candidate. A resume is a business document and it is the first impression a company has of an applicant. From the onset, it must be carefully designed with due diligence and consideration given toward the choice of each and every sentence, as the presentation of a resume in regard to spelling, grammar, syntax, verb tense and more, is the core foundation upon which a persons credentials will be assessed.
In regard to your query, I can not see how your background could in any way be a hindrance to your job hunt. Sometimes it’s just a matter of timing.
Feel free to visit my website, http://www.logcap4jobs.com for more information, or drop me a line at info@logcap4jobs.com.
I left KBR and Anaconda last december and have been placed on the non-rehire list with them. I have been dealing with divorce but that is nearly over and I want to get back on project. Does anyone know if that is a list that is shared with the other contractors or is just internal to KBR? I have been applying like crazy have a good resume and good work background but have not gotten anything back.
Good question Kevin. The subjects you mention raise a couple of thoughtful points which other people may find interesting as well.
During my time on the project with KBR, it was not an uncommon practice for someone to get fired from one theater of operations say Afghanistan, and a short time later magically reappear in Iraq where the attitude was one of letting bygones be bygones – water under the bridge and all that. It was basically a revolving door between Afghanistan and Iraq, and vice versa.
In regard to a universal “black list” the existence of which has grown to mythical proportions and reputed to be shared among employers on the project, I am highly skeptical. It seems that would require a collaborative exchange of confidential information on a mind boggling scale and even though I am no lawyer, I would hazard a guess that it could even be illegal.
Myth Busters would probably find this rumor to be a conspiracy theory.
One avenue you may want to explore though, is to contact the KBR Dispute Resolution Program to as they say, “Get on the road to resolution”.
The Federal Government on the other hand, (who does happen to be keenly interested in knowing a persons work history), on the SF85P (which everybody has to fill out these days), under Section 13C: Employment Record, requires an applicant to answer the following questions to be considered for employment:
Has any of the following happened to you in the last 7 years?
1. Fired from a job
2. Quit a job after being told you would be fired
3. Left a job by mutual agreement following charges or allegations of misconduct
4. Left a job by mutual agreement following notice of unsatisfactory performance
5. Left a job for other reasons under unfavorable circumstances
6. Laid off from job by employer
In all fairness, they do give a person the opportunity to explain themselves.
For anyone who may be considering applying for a job on LOGCAP, I would suggest you look on the internet for the SF85P public trust form and/or the SF86 (for those who will be required to obtain and maintain a security clearance), and review the questions which you will be required to answer, BEFORE packing your bags and quitting your day job.
Bruce the illegality of sharing info like that it was has kept me optimistic that the ‘list’ probably doesn’t actually exist. However as of yet no replies. This is after months of applying and I’d wager no less that 60 actual applications to positions within my field. I have been told by DRP basically it would be a waste of my $$(the $50 fee) and everyones time for me to go to mediation, the next step. I am working thank God but I am itching to go back as I really enjoyed the work and the pay(of course). Like so many others I could really use the pay after this year.
Thanks for a chance to ask a question: I’m an experienced contruction worker with many certifications, but also have a marijuana possession and a domestic violence conviction about 5 years ago from California, so I’m not allowed to possess an firearm. Would a LOGCAP job require security clearance that I couldn’t qualify for?
Hi Bruce.
Im 19 years old from ireland nearly 20.Have expierience in cleaning,food service,
manufacturing,fishing.
Have applied for job with logcap as food service worker just wondering is it very hard to get employed as a food service worker??Just wondering whats the pay like?well thanks look foward to hearing from you.
CBISLAND – Excuse the delayed response, but long answer short…I don’t know. There aren’t any LOGCAP jobs that require regular civilians to carry a gun that I know of, just the PMC’s and PSC’s. Also, all LOGCAP jobs do not require a security clearance. You could go ahead and apply, but just be prepared for whatever the result may happen to be.
Feel free to send your resume to me and I’ll take a look to see how I can help.
info@logcap4jobs.com
Any idea of what KBR is paying Master Electricians in the Iraq theater area?
BJ Cunningham – Apologies for the delayed response. I’m not in a position to quote salaries, but it’s safe to say that Master Electricians are paid very well.
Hello Bruce,
I am a Kenyan aged 48 years and a career in mechanical engineering. I received the information on LOG CAP through a friend who works with you and stationed in Baghdad Iraq.
I have tried to apply for job in Log cap but have not received any response at all. How do I get to communicating as I am interested to work with your organization even though am Kenyan.
regards,
David Muramba.
David – Thank you for your enquiry. Your situation is shared by many other applicants.
The first step I suggest for anyone who is considering launching a strategic LOGCAP job hunt, is to research and educate one’s self about the LOGCAP project. The reason? In my experience, chance favors the prepared mind, and an informed candidate is a better candidate. Use your subscription to DangerZoneJobs to learn as much as possible about the companies which are currently hiring, those which are expected to be hiring, and the minimum and preferred requirements for the position you are interested in.
Pay particularly close attention to the minimum and preferred requirements of a job requisition, as the minimum requirements are referred to as “deal breakers”. If an applicant does not meet the minimum requirements, their resume will not make the first cut in the selection process. If you do meet all of the minimum requirements, then take a close look at the preferred requirements. As an example, if under preferred requirements the job posting calls for a Bachelors degree in Supply Chain Management or 7 years experience in the field, then that is exactly what it means – a Bachelors degree in Supply Chain Management, or 7 years experience in the field. Anything less, say for instance an Associates degree in General Studies and 2 years of experience won’t get you the time of day with a recruiter.
If you meet all the minimum and preferred requirements of a job posting, then you are off to a good start.
The next step in your job campaign is to make absolutely certain that the resume you submit to the LOGCAP recruiters is absolutely perfect – and a part of what I mean by “perfect”, is that no mistakes of any kind are in your resume. It must contain no technical errors, it must be visually appealing, and the language used to express who you are professionally must not be verbose, but rather succinct and to the point.
There is a host of other factors which influence an applicant’s chances of getting one’s resume out of the database and into the hands of a recruiter, but suffice it to say that if the resume someone sends in is not fully optimized with contextually relevant keywords, there is a 100% chance it will never be read.
Hello Mr Diggs,
I am trying for over a year to get a job on LOGCAP IV,i have applied at Fluor ,and after ten days came up No longer Under Consideration,i think maybe i am getting wrong with my CV .
Could you help with some tips and advice?
Mile –
It is possible the need for someone with your employment history has not arisen yet. My advice is to keep applying and don’t stop.
Good Luck
My clearance lapsed two years ago while working for a commercial employer. I'm a 20-year veteran with a logistics background.
Will this prevent me from getting hired? Also do you know of any reputable sources that could review my resume if need be?
Bruce- I have applied to the big 3 for logcap. I have not heard a return. I have also sent my resume to a service to have it re written proffesionally as you can see I am bad with writing. What is the usualy response time and what are the recruiters looking for? I am a truck driver and looking for a change in scenery thanks for your help in advance
Todd P
Sharon – Security clearances as you know are active only when the employee is in a position which requires it. Otherwise, it’s inactive but this certainly won’t be held against you. In fact, having previously held a security clearance is a positive, and being a 20 year vet with a Logistics background will definitely work to your advantage.
Feel free to shoot your current resume to me at info@logcap4jobs.com. I’ll look it over and let you know how I can assist. Also, drop by my site, http://www.logcap4jobs.com for further information.
Todd – Back in “the day” if you had a “pulse and a passport” the process for getting hired – especially by KBR – was almost a guaranteed thing.
Fast forwarding to the present however, the process is much more drawn out, and the competition has never been higher. That’s why I always advise people never to put their eggs in one basket so to speak, and to always keep your options open. Never actually count on getting onto the LOGCAP project and plan your career path accordingly. That way, you’re prepared for whatever – if the call comes, great – and if it never comes, you still have a plan.
In answer to your 2 part question, there is no average response time and what recruiters are looking for in an applicant is someone who at the very least matches the minimum qualifications stated in a job requisition, and ideally meets the preferred qualifications as well.
For example, if under Basic Job Requirements the job posting calls for 3 years directly related experience and an applicant meets that condition then in theory, they will have made the first cut. If they don’t meet the minimum requirements, they’re out.
Looking further under Preferred Qualifications, if the job requisition then calls for prior military and/or contingency operations experience, then those who meet this requirement will be considered a possible candidate. This is why it is so important to always read the minimum and preferred requirements of the job posting. Hope that helps, and be sure to drop by my site http://www.logcap4jobs.com for more info.
Just a quick note to say a huge THANK YOU for your service and for the information and assistance you've provided here. Absolutely invaluable. Started on the job hunt over a year ago but so far no success and from reading the entries and your replys here I'm figuring out why. Hopefully with some changes to strategies and finding someone to go over my resume, I'll be overseas sooner than I would have been had I not found this information. Thank you again.
Excuse me sir or maam I am looking to go anywhere overseas danger zone preferred. I am fresh out the military and I hope you can lead me in the right direction. Id like to look more into logistics, transportation, or even mwr(gym). Please let me know how I can get into this company. If I could Id like to jump on board immediately.\
Thankyou, Corey Lee